From: Mark Kantrowitz
Subject: FAQ: Lisp Implementations and Mailing Lists 4/7 [Monthly posting]
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This post contains Part 4 of the Lisp FAQ. It is cross-posted to the
newsgroup comp.lang.scheme because it contains material of interest to
Scheme people. The other parts of the Lisp FAQ are posted only to the
newsgroups comp.lang.lisp and news.answers. 

If you think of questions that are appropriate for this FAQ, or would
like to improve an answer, please send email to us at ········@think.com.

Lisp/Scheme Implementations and Mailing Lists (Part 4):

  [4-0]   Free Common Lisp implementations.
  [4-1]   Commercial Common Lisp implementations.
  [4-2]   Scheme Implementations
  [4-4]   Free Implementations of Other Lisp Dialects
  [4-5]   Commercial Implementations of Other Lisp Dialects
  [4-6]   What is Dylan?
  [4-7]   What is Pearl Common Lisp?
  [4-9]   What Lisp-related discussion groups and mailing lists exist?
  [4-10]  ANSI Common Lisp -- Where can I get a copy of the draft standard?

Search for \[#\] to get to question number # quickly.

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Subject: [4-0]   Free Common Lisp implementations.

Repositories of Lisp source code are described in the answer to
question [6-1]. 

Remember, when ftping compressed or compacted files (.Z, .arc, .fit,
etc.) to use binary mode for retrieving the files.

   Kyoto Common Lisp (KCL) is free, but requires a license. Conforms to CLtL1.
   KCL was written by T. Yuasa <·····@tutics.tut.ac.jp> and M. Hagiya
   <······@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> at Kyoto University. Austin Kyoto Common Lisp
   (AKCL) is a collection of ports, bug fixes and improvements to KCL
   by Bill Schelter (<···@cli.com> or <···@rascal.ics.utexas.edu>). {A}KCL
   generates C code which it compiles with the local C compiler. Both are
   available by anonymous ftp from rascal.ics.utexas.edu [128.83.138.20],
   ftp.cli.com [192.31.85.1], or [133.11.11.11] (a machine in Japan)
   in the directory /pub. KCL is in the file kcl.tar, and AKCL is in the
   file akcl-xxx.tar.Z (take the highest value of xxx).  To obtain KCL, one 
   must first sign and mail a copy of the license agreement to: Special 
   Interest Group in LISP, c/o Taiichi Yuasa, Department of Computer Science,
   Toyohashi University of Technology, Toyohashi 441, JAPAN. Runs on Sparc,
   IBM RT, RS/6000, DecStation 3100, hp300, hp800, Macintosh II (under AUX),
   mp386, IBM PS2, Silicon Graphics 4d, Sun3, Sun4, Sequent Symmetry,
   IBM 370, NeXT and Vax. A port to DOS is in beta test as
   math.utexas.edu:pub/beta2.zip. Commercial versions of {A}KCL are available
   from Austin Code Works, 11100 Leafwood Lane, Austin, TX 78750-3409,
   Tel. 512-258-0785, Fax 512-258-1342, E-mail ·······@acw.com,
   including a CLOS for AKCL. See also Ibuki, below.

   XLISP is free, and runs on the IBM PC (MSDOS), Amiga (AmigaDOS),
   Atari ST (TOS), Apple Macintosh, and Unix. It should run on
   anything with a C compiler.  It was written by David Michael Betz,
   167 Villa Avenue #11, Los Gatos, CA 95032, 408-354-9303 (H), 
   408-862-6325 (W), ·····@apple.com. The reference manual was
   written by Tim Mikkelsen. Version 2.0 is available by anonymous ftp from
           cs.orst.edu:/pub/xlisp/ [128.193.32.1] or
           sumex-aim.stanford.edu:info-mac/lang/
   Version 2.1 is the same as XLISP 2.0, but modified to bring it closer
   to Common Lisp and with several bugs fixed. It can be obtained by
   anonymous ftp from
           glia.biostr.washington.edu:/pub/xlisp      128.95.10.115
           wasp.eng.ufl.edu:/pub                      128.227.116.1
   as the files xlisp21e.zip and xlisp21e.tar.Z. The xlisp21e.zip file comes
   with IBM/PC executables. A Macintosh port with a user-interface
   similar to Apple's MCL is also available from the sites listed above. For
   obtaining a copy through US mail, send email to Tom Almy,
   ····@sail.labs.tek.com. A Windows version of the statistical
   version of xlisp is available by anonymous ftp from
   ftp.cica.indiana.edu:/util/ as wxlslib.zip.  

   CMU Common Lisp is free, and runs on Sparcs (Mach and SunOs),
   DecStation 3100 (Mach), IBM RT (Mach) and requires 16mb RAM, 25mb
   disk. It includes an incremental compiler, Hemlock emacs-style editor,
   source-code level debugger, code profiler and is mostly X3J13
   compatible, including the new loop macro.  It is available by anonymous
   ftp from any CMU CS machine, such as ftp.cs.cmu.edu [128.2.206.173], in the
   directory /afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/clisp/release. Login with username
   "anonymous" and ·······@host" (your email address) as password. Due to
   security restrictions on anonymous ftps (some of the superior
   directories on the path are protected against outside access), it is
   important to "cd" to the source directory with a single command.
   Don't forget to put the ftp into binary mode before using "get" to
   obtain the compressed/tarred files. The binary releases are
   contained in files of the form
                <version>-<machine>_<os>.tar.Z
   Other files in this directory of possible interest are
   16f-source.tar.Z, which contains all the ".lisp" source files
   used to build version 16f. A listing of the current contents of the
   release area is in the file FILES. You may also use "dir" or "ls" to 
   see what is available. Bug reports should be sent to ··········@cs.cmu.edu.

   WCL is an implementation of Common Lisp for Sparc based workstations.
   It is available free by anonymous ftp from sunrise.stanford.edu in the
   pub/wcl directory. The file wcl-2.14.tar.Z contains the WCL
   distribution, including CLX and PCL; wgdb-4.2.tar.Z contains a version
   of the GDB debugger which has been modified to grok WCL's Lisp; and
   gcc-2.1.tar.Z contains the GNU C compiler (2.2.2 does not work!).  WCL
   provides a large subset of Common Lisp as a Unix shared library that
   can be linked with Lisp and C code to produce efficient and small
   applications.  WCL provides CLX R5 as a shared library, and comes with
   PCL and a few other utilities.  For further information on WCL, see
   the paper published in the proceedings of the 1992 Lisp and Functional
   Programming Conference, a copy of which appears in the wcl directory
   as lfp-paper.ps, or look in the documentation directory of the WCL
   distribution. Written by Wade Hennessey <····@sunrise.stanford.edu>. 
   Please direct any questions to ···@sunrise.stanford.edu.
   If you would like to be added to a mailing list for information about
   new releases, send email to ···········@sunrise.stanford.edu.

   CLISP is a Common Lisp (CLtL1) implementation by Bruno Haible of
   Karlsruhe University and Michael Stoll of Munich University, both in
   Germany. It runs on microcomputers (Atari ST, Amiga 500-4000, DOS,
   OS/2) as well as on Unix workstations (Linux, Sun4, Sun386, HP9000/800,
   Sun3, Solaris2, and others) and needs only 1.5 MB of RAM, only 1 MB on
   Atari ST.  It is free software and may be distributed under the terms
   of GNU GPL.  German and English versions are available, French coming
   soon.  CLISP includes an interpreter, a compiler and, for some
   machines, a screen editor. Packages running in CLISP include PCL and,
   on Unix machines, CLX.  Available by anonymous ftp from
   ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.115.2] in the directory
   /pub/lisp/clisp. For more information, contact Bruno Haible
   <······@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de>.

   RefLisp is a small Lisp interpreter. Versions exist for MS-DOS and
   UNIX (AIX). The MS-DOS version supports CGA/EGA/VGA graphics and the
   Microsoft Mouse. The interpreter is a shallow-binding (i.e.,
   everything has dynamic scope), reference counting design making it
   suitable for experimenting with real-time and graphic user interface
   programming. Common Lisp compatibility macros are provided, and most
   of the examples in "Lisp" by Winston & Horn have been run on RefLisp.
   RefLisp makes no distinction between symbol-values and
   function-values, so a symbol can be either but not both.  RefLisp
   comes with an ASCII manual and many demonstration programs, including
   an analogue clock which never stops for garbage collection.  It is
   written in ANSI C and is in the public domain. Source and binaries are
   available in the Lisp Utilities repository by anonymous ftp from
   ftp.cs.cmu.edu in the directory
     /afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/mkant/Public/Lisp/implementations/reflisp/ 
   as the files reflisp1_3, reflisp2_3, reflisp3_3 and reflisp_README.
   For further information, send email to the author Bill Birch
   <·······@uk03.bull.co.uk>. 

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Subject: [4-1]   Commercial Common Lisp implementations.

   Macintosh Common Lisp (MCL 2.0) runs on the Apple Macintosh (Mac+ or
   higher with 4mb RAM and system software 6.0.4 or later or AUX 3.0) and
   is available from APDA for $495. It includes a native CLOS Macintosh
   Toolbox/interface toolkit, ephemeral garbage collection, incremental
   compiler, window-based debugger, source-code stepper, object
   inspector, emacs-style editor, and a foreign function interface.
   Bug reports should be sent to ·······@cambridge.apple.com. With
   MCL version 2.0, Apple has started distributing a CD-ROM which
   contains, among other things, a large collection of Lisp code,
   complete MCL manuals in an online-browser format, the CLIM 1.0 manual
   in TeX and postscript, and copies of Gambit 1.8 Scheme, SIOD 2.8
   Scheme, Pixie Scheme, and a demo version of MacScheme. For more
   information, write to: APDA, Apple Computer Inc., 20525 Mariani
   Avenue, MS 33-G, Cupertino, CA 95014-6299 or call toll free
   1-800-282-2732 (US), 1-800-637-0029 (Canada), 1-408-562-3910. Their
   fax number is 1-408-562-3971 and their telex is 171-576. Email may
   also be sent to ····@applelink.apple.com.  CLIM for MCL is available
   for $495 as a separate product from Lucid, Inc., 707 Laurel Street,
   Menlo Park, CA 94025 U.S.A., 415-329-8400, fax: 415-329-8480,
   <·····@lucid.com>.
   
   Procyon Common Lisp runs on either the Apple Macintosh or IBM PC (386/486
   or OS/2 native mode), costing 450 pounds sterling ($675) educational,
   1500 pounds ($2250) commercial. It requires 2.5mb RAM on the Macintosh
   and 4mb RAM on PCs (4mb and more than 4mb recommended respectively).  It
   is a full graphical environment, and includes a native CLOS with
   meta-object protocol, incremental compilation, foreign function
   interface, object inspector, text and structure editors, and debugger.
   Write to: Scientia Ltd., St. John's Innovation Centre, Cowley Road,
   Cambridge, CB4 4WS, UK, with phone +44-223-421221, fax +44-223-421218,
   and email ······@applelink.apple.com. An alternate address for US
   customers is: ExperTelligence, Inc., 5638 Hollister Ave, Suite 302,
   Goleta, CA 93117, or call 805-962-2558. Their fax is 805-964-8448 
   and email is ·····@applelink.apple.com. [The rights to the
   MS Windows version of Procyon were sold to Franz who are marketing and
   developing it as Allegro CL\PC. See Allegro's entry for more
   information.]

   Allegro Common Lisp 4.1 runs on a variety of platforms, including
   Sparcs, RS6000, HP700, Silicon Graphics, DecStation (prices start at
   $4,500) and NeXT ($2,000). It requires 12mb RAM for the 680x0 and 16mb
   for RISC. It includes native CLOS, X-windows support, Unix interface,
   incremental compilation, generational garbage collection, and a
   foreign function interface.  Options include Allegro Composer
   (development environment, including debugger, inspector, object
   browser, time/space code profiler, and a graphical user interface,
   $1,500), Common LISP Interface Manager (CLIM 2.0 is a portable
   high-level user interface management system.  CLIM 2.0 for Allegro
   CL supports both Motif and Openlook, $1,000) and Allegro CLIP
   (a parallel version of Lisp for the Sequent).  Franz also markets
   Allegro CL\PC for Windows 3.1 for an introductory price of $595 (due
   to increase to $995 on July 1, 1993).  Allegro CL\PC provides 32-bit
   compilation, complete CLOS, an integrated development environment,
   interface to the Windows API, DLL support, and free runtime delivery.
   Write to: Franz Inc., 1995 University Avenue, Berkeley, CA 94704 or
   call 1-800-333-7260, 510-548-3600, fax 510-548-8253, telex 340179
   WUPUBTLXSFO. Bug reports can be mailed to ····@franz.com.  Questions
   about Franz Inc. products (e.g., current and special pricing) can be
   sent to ····@franz.com. To receive Franz Flash, Franz's electronic
   newsletter, send mail to ·····@franz.com.

   Ibuki Common Lisp is a commercialized and improved version of Kyoto
   Common Lisp. It runs on over 30 platforms, including Sun3, Sparc, Dec
   (Ultrix), Apollo, HP 9000, IBM RS/6000, Silicon Graphics and IBM PCs.
   It includes an incremental compiler, interpreter, foreign function
   interface. It generates C code from the Lisp and compiles it using the
   local C compiler.  Image size is about 3mb. Cost is $2800 (workstations),
   $3500 (servers), $700 (IBM PCs). Supports CLOS and CLX ($200 extra). 
   Source code is available at twice the cost. Ibuki now also has a product 
   called CONS which compiles Lisp functions into linkable Unix libraries.
   Write to: Ibuki Inc., PO Box 1627, Los Altos, CA 94022, or call
   415-961-4996, fax 415-961-8016, or send email to Richard Weyhrauch, 
   ···@ibuki.com or ·······@ibuki.com.

   Lucid Common Lisp runs on a variety of platforms, including PCs (AIX),
   Apollo, HP, Sun-3, Sparc, IBM RT, IBM RS/6000, Decstation 3100,
   Silicon Graphics, and Vax, and costs $2500 (IBM PCs), $4400 (other
   platforms). Lucid includes native CLOS, a foreign function interface,
   and generational garbage collection.  CLIM is available for Lucid as
   a separate product. Write to Lucid Inc., 707 Laurel Street, Menlo Park,
   CA 94025, call toll free 800-225-1386 (or 800-843-4204), 415-329-8400,
   fax 415-329-8480, or email to ·····@lucid.com for information on pricing, 
   product availability, etc. Technical questions may be addressed to
   ················@lucid.com. See also the comments in question [1-2]
   on the wizards.doc file that comes with the release.

   Medley is a Common Lisp development environment that includes a native
   CLOS w/MOP, window toolkit, window-based debugger, incremental
   compiler, structure editor, inspectors, stepper, cross-referencer,
   code analysis tools, and browsers. It is the successor to InterLisp-D.
   It runs on a variety of platforms, including Suns, DecStations,
   386/486s, IBM RS/6000, MIPS, HP, and Xerox 1186. Medley also runs
   under DOS and will shortly be available on the Macintosh too.
   Developer version costs $995 and run-time version $300.
   Instructional costs $250/copy or $1250 site license.  Write to: Venue,
   1549 Industrial Rd, San Carlos, CA 94070, call 800-228-5325,
   415-508-9672, fax 415-508-9770, or email
   ············@envos.xerox.com.

   Golden Common Lisp (GCLisp) runs on IBM PCs under DOS and Windows,
   costing $2,000 ($250 extra for Gold Hill Windows), and includes an
   incremental compiler, foreign function interface, interactive
   debugger, and emacs-like editor. It supports DDE and other Windows
   stuff, and is CLtL1 compatible.  Supports PCL. It requires 4mb RAM,
   and 12mb disk. See a review in PC-WEEK 4/1/91 comparing GCLisp with
   an older version of MCL.  Write to: Gold Hill Computers, 26 Landsdowne
   Street, Cambridge, MA 02139, call 617-621-3300, or fax 617-621-0656.

   Star Sapphire Common LISP provides a subset of Common Lisp and includes
   an emacs-like editor, compiler, debugger, DOS graphics and CLOS. It
   runs on IBM PCs (MSDOS), requires 640k RAM, a hard disk, and costs $100.  
   Write to: Sapiens Software Corporation, PO Box 3365,
   Santa Cruz, CA 95063-3365, call 408-458-1990, or fax 408-425-0905/9220.
   Copies may also be ordered from the Programmers' shop at 800-421-8006. 
   Sapiens Software also has a Lisp-to-C translator in beta-test.

   NanoLISP is a Lisp interpreter for DOS systems that supports a
   large subset of the Common Lisp standard, including lexical and
   dynamic scoping, four lambda-list keywords, closures, local functions,
   macros, output formatting, generic sequence functions, transcendental
   functions, 2-d arrays, bit-arrays, sequences, streams, characters
   double-floats, hash-tables and structures. Runs in DOS 2.1 or higher,
   requiring only 384k of RAM. Cost is $100. Write to: Microcomputer Systems
   Consultants, PO Box 6646, Santa Barbara, CA 93160 or call 805-967-2270.

   Software Engineer is a Lisp for Windows that creates small stand-alone
   executables. It is a subset of Common Lisp, but includes CLOS. It
   requires 2mb RAM, but can use up to 16mb of memory, generating 286
   specific code. It costs $250.  Write to: Raindrop Software, 833
   Arapaho Road, Suite 104, Richardson, TX 75081, call 214-234-2611, 
   fax 214-234-2674, or send email to ··········@compuserve.com.

   muLISP-90 is a small Lisp which runs on IBM PCs (or the HP 95LX
   palmtop), MS-DOS version 2.1 or later. It isn't Common Lisp, although
   there is a Common Lisp compatibility package which augments muLISP-90
   with over 450 Common Lisp special forms, macros, functions and control
   variables. Includes a screen-oriented editor and debugger, a window
   manager, an interpreter and a compiler. Among the example programs is
   DOCTOR, an Eliza-like program. The runtime system allows one to create
   small EXE or COM executables. Uses a compact internal representation
   of code to minimize space requirements and speed up execution. The
   kernel takes up only 50k of space. Costs $400. Write to Soft
   Warehouse, Inc., 3660 Waialae Avenue, Suite 304, Honolulu, HI
   96816-3236, call 808-734-5801, or fax 808-735-1105.

   CLOE (Common Lisp Operating Environment) is a cross-development
   environment for IBM PCs (MSDOS) and Symbolics Genera. It includes
   CLOS, condition error system, generational garbage collection,
   incremental compilation, code time/space profiling, and a stack-frame
   debugger. It costs from $625 to $4000 and requires 4-8mn RAM and a 386
   processor.  Write to: Symbolics, 6 New England Tech Center, 
   521 Virginia Road, Concord, MA 01742, call 1-800-394-5522 or 
   508-287-1000 or fax 508-287-1099. 

   Top Level Common Lisp includes futures, a debugger, tracer, stepper,
   foreign function interface and object inspector.  It runs on Unix
   platforms, requiring 8mb RAM, and costs $687.  Write to: Top Level,
   100 University Drive, Amherst, MA 01002, call (413) 549-4455, or fax
   (413) 549-4910.

   Harlequin Lispworks runs on a variety of Unix platforms, including
   Sun3/Sun4, Sparc, RS/6000, DEC/MIPS, Intergraph C300 and C400, HP400,
   HP700, and Sparc clones. A cross compiler is available that will
   produce run-time images that run on 386/486 DOS/Window 3.1 platforms.
   It is a full graphical Common Lisp environment, with a fully
   implemented Prolog compiler and SQL interface.
   Common Lisp: CLtL2 compatible, native CLOS/MOP, generational GC,
        Fortran/C/C++ interface.
   Environment : Prolog, Emacs-like editor/listener/shell, defadvice,
        defsystem, cross-referencing, lightweight processes,
        debugger, mail reader, extensible hypertext online doc, LALR
        parser generator.
   Browsers/graphers: files, objects, classes, generic functions,
        source code systems, specials, compilation warnings.
   Graphics: CLX, CLUE, Toolkit, CLIM, Open Look, Motif, interface
        builder, program visualization.
   Integrated Products: KnowledgeWorks (RETE engine)
   Write to: Harlequin Inc. One Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142,
   call 800-967-5749 (617-252-0052), fax 617-252-6505 or send email to
   ·····@harlequin.com or ··@harlequin.com or ···@harlequin.com.
   European customers should write to Harlequin Limited, Barrington Hall,
   Barrington, Cambridge, CB2 5RG, call 0223-872-522 (or 44-223-872-522
   outside UK), telex 818440 harlqn g, fax 0223-872-519, or send email
   to ··@harlqn.co.uk or ·····@harlqn.co.uk ("harlqn" and "harlequin"
   should be interchangeable). Further information on
   Harlequin's Lisp products may be obtained by sending mail to
   ·················@harlequin.co.uk or ·················@harlequin.com.

   Lisp-to-C Translator translates Common Lisp into C, but requires that
   you specify when and where you'd like your garbage to be collected.
   Works with Lucid, Symbolics, Allegro, Harlequin and MCL. It costs $12,000.
   Write to: Chestnut Software, Inc., 2 Park Plaza, Suite 205, Boston,
   MA, 02116, call 617-542-9222, or fax 617-542-9220. 

   Poplog Common Lisp is an integrated Lisp/Prolog environment with an
   incremental compiler. It runs on a variety of platforms, including
   Unix ($749), Sparc ($4500), Macintosh AUX ($749), and VAX/VMS
   ($4500). There are no run-time fees. Write to: Computable Functions, Inc., 
   35 South Orchard Drive, Amherst, MA 01002, call 413-253-7637, or fax
   413-545-1249. 

Lisps which run on special-purpose hardware (Lisp Machines) include
   o  Symbolics           1-800-394-5522 (508-287-1000)   fax 508-287-1099
      6 New England Tech Center, 521 Virginia Road, Concord MA 01742
   o  TI Explorers
   o  Xerox Interlisp.    See Medley above.

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Subject: [4-2] Scheme Implementations

Scheme implementations are listed in the Scheme FAQ posting,

Free Scheme implementations include PC-Scheme, PCS/Geneva, MIT Scheme (aka
C-Scheme), SCM, Hobbit, Gambit, T, Oaklisp, Elk, Scheme->C, SIOD
(Scheme in One Defun), XScheme, Fools' Lisp, Scheme48, UMB Scheme,
VSCM, Pixie Scheme, HELP (a lazy Scheme), Similix, FDU Scheme,
PseudoScheme, Scheme84 and Scheme88.

Commercial Scheme implementations include Chez Scheme, MacScheme, and EdScheme.

Of the free Scheme implementations, the following are implemented in Lisp:  

   Peter Norvig's book "Paradigms of AI Programming" has a chapters about
   Scheme interpreters and compilers, both written in Common Lisp. The
   software from the book is available by anonymous ftp from
   unix.sri.com:pub/norvig and on disk in Macintosh or DOS format from
   the publisher, Morgan Kaufmann.  For more information, contact: Morgan
   Kaufmann, Dept. P1, 2929 Campus Drive, Suite 260, San Mateo CA 94403,
   or call Toll free tel: (800) 745-7323; FAX: (415) 578-0672

   PseudoScheme is available free by anonymous ftp from
   altdorf.ai.mit.edu:/archive/pseudo/pseudo-2-8.tar.Z. It is Scheme
   implemented on top of Common Lisp, and runs in Lucid, Symbolics CL,
   VAX Lisp under VMS, and Explorer CL. It should be easy to port to
   other Lisps. It was written by Jonathan Rees (···@altdorf.ai.mit.edu,
   ···@cs.cornell.edu). Send mail to ·····················@mc.lcs.mit.edu
   to be put on a mailing list for announcements. Conforms to R3RS except
   for lacking a correct implementation of call/cc. It works by running
   the Scheme code through a preprocessor, which generates Common Lisp code.

   Scheme84 is in the public domain, and available by mail from Indiana
   University. It runs on the VAX in Franz Lisp under either VMS or BSD Unix.
   To receive a copy, send a tape and return postage to: Scheme84
   Distribution, Nancy Garrett, c/o Dan Friedman, Department of Computer
   Science, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana. Call 1-812-335-9770
   or send mail to ···@indiana.edu for more information.

   Scheme88 is available by anonymous ftp from rice.edu:public/scheme88.sh
   and also from the Scheme Repository.

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Subject: [4-4]   Free Implementations of Other Lisp Dialects

   PC LISP is a Lisp interpreter for IBM PCs (MSDOS) available from any
   site that archives the group comp.binaries.ibm.pc, such as
   ix1.cc.utexas.edu:/microlib/pc/languages/pc-lisp/ps-lisp.arc
   wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors/msdos/lisp/pclisp30.zip 
   ucdavis.ucdavis.edu:/pub/pclisp30.zip
   PC-LISP is a Franz LISP dialect and is by no means Common LISP
   compatible. It is also available directly from the author by sending
   2 blank UNFORMATTED 360K 48TPI IBM PC diskettes, a mailer and
   postage to: Peter Ashwood-Smith, 8 Du Muguet, Hull, Quebec, CANADA,
   J9A-2L8; phone 819-595-9032 (home). Source code is available from the
   author for $15.

   Feel (Free and Eventually Eulisp) is an initial implementation of the
   EuLisp language. It can be retrieved by anonymous FTP from
   ftp.bath.ac.uk in the directory /pub/eulisp/ as the file
   feel-0.75.tar.Z. feel-0.75.sun4.Z is the Sparc executable. The
   EuLisp language definition is in the same directory.  Feel is also available
   from gmdzi.gmd.de [129.26.8.90] in the /lang/lisp/eulisp directory.
   It includes an integrated object system, a module system, and support
   for parallelism. EuLisp is sort of like an extended Scheme.  The
   program is a C-based interpreter, and a bytecode interpreter/compiler
   will be available sometime soon.  The distribution includes an
   interface to the PVM library, support for TCP/IP sockets, and
   libraries for futures, Linda, and CSP.  Feel is known to run on Sun3,
   Sun4, Stardent Titan, Alliant Concentrix 2800, Orion clippers, DEC
   VAX, DECstation 3000, Gould UTX/32, and Inmos T800 transputer (using
   CS-Tools). (All bar the last four have a threads mechanism.) It can
   run in multi-process mode on the first three machines, and hopefully
   any other SysV-like machine with shared memory primitives. Porting
   Feel to new machines is reasonably straightforward. It now also runs
   on MS-DOS machines.  Written by Pete Broadbery <···@maths.bath.ac.uk>.

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Subject: [4-5]   Commercial Implementations of Other Lisp Dialects

   Franz Lisp 2.0 runs on the Apple Macintosh, requiring 1mb RAM for the
   interpreter ($99) and 2.5mb RAM for the compiler ($199).  Student prices
   are $60 for the interpreter and $110 for the interpreter and compiler.
   Includes editor and language reference manual. Complete sources are
   available for $649. The ALJABR symbolic mathematics system costs $249.
   Write to:  Fort Pond Research, 15 Fort Pond Road, Acton, MA 01720,
   call 1-508-263-9692, or send mail to ·····@fpr.com.

   Le-Lisp includes a compiler, color and graphic output, a debugger, a
   pretty printer, performance analysis tools, tracing, and incremental
   execution. Le-Lisp currently runs on Unix, VMS, and Windows 3.1.  Note
   that Le-Lisp is neither Common Lisp nor Scheme.  Le-Lisp was
   originally developed in 1980 at Inria, the French national computer
   science laboratory, by a team led by Jerome Chailloux for work on VLSI
   design. It was based on several earlier Lisps in the MacLisp family,
   but was not directly derived from MacLisp.  Le-Lisp enjoyed a large
   success in the French academic world because it was small, fast, and
   portable, being based on a abstract machine language called LLM3.  In
   1983, for example, Le-Lisp ran on Z-80 machines running CP/M. In 1987,
   Ilog was formed as an offshoot of Inria to commercialize and improve
   Le-Lisp and several products which had been developed with it,
   including a portable graphic interface system and an expert system
   shell.  Since then, Ilog has continued to grow and expand the use of
   Le-Lisp into industrial markets around the world.  Ilog is the largest
   European Lisp vendor, and continues to develop new products and
   markets for Lisp.  In 1992, Ilog released the next major version of
   Le-Lisp, Le-Lisp version 16.  This version modernizes Le-Lisp for use
   in the industrial world, adding lexical closures and
   special-form-based semantics for static analysis, a new object system
   based on the EuLisp object system (TELOS), an enhanced module system
   for application production, a conservative GC for integration with C
   and C++, and compilation to C for portability and efficiency on a wide
   range of processors.  For pricing and other information, write to
   ILOG, 2 Avenue Gallieni, BP 85, 94253 Gentilly Cedex, France, call
   33-1-46-63-66-66, fax 33-1-46-63-15-82, or send email to Jerome
   Chailloux (········@ilog.fr).

   Clisp is a library of functions which extends the C programming
   language to include some of the functionality of Lisp. Costs $349.
   Write to Drasch Computer Software, 187 Slade Road, Ashford, CT 06278, 
   or call or fax 203-429-3817.

   Two references in Dr. Dobb's journal on Lisp-style libraries for C
   are: Douglas Chubb, "An Improved Lisp-Style Library for C", Dr. Dobb's
   Jounral #192, September 1992, and Daniel Ozick, "A Lisp-Style Library
   for C", Dr. Dobb's Journal #179:36-48, August 1991. Source is available by
   ftp from various archives, including wuarchive.wustl.edu (MSDOSDDJMAG),
   or ftp.mv.com:/pub/ddj, or the DDJ Forum on Compuserve.


Other Lisps for PCs include: 

   o  UO-LISP from Calcode Systems, ····················@rand.org
      It comes complete with compiler and interpreter, and is optimised for
      large programs.  It is Standard LISP, not Common LISP. They are based
      in Amoroso Place in Venice, CA. 

   o  LISP/88 v1.0. Gotten from Norell Data Systems, 3400 Wilshire Blvd,
      Los Angeles, CA 90010, in 1983. They may or may not still exist. 

   o  IQLisp. Not a Common Lisp but still very good for PCs - you can
      actually get a lot done in 640K.  The lisp itself runs in less than
      128K and every cons cell takes only 6 bytes.  Unfortunately that
      makes the 640K (maybe a little more, but certainly no more than 1M)
      limit really hard. It has a byte code compiler which costs extra. 
      This has support for all sorts of PC specific things.
      It costs $175 w/o compiler, $275 with. 
      Write to: Integral Quality, Box 31970, Seattle, WA 98103,
      call Bob Rorschach, (206) 527-2918 or email ···@franz.com. 

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Subject: [4-6] What is Dylan?

Dylan is a new Object-Oriented Dynamic Language (OODL), based on
Scheme, CLOS, and Smalltalk.  The purpose of the language is to retain
the benefits of OODLs and also allow efficient application delivery.
The design stressed keeping Dylan small and consistent, while allowing
a high degree of expressiveness. Dylan is consistently object-oriented;
it is not a procedural language with an object-oriented extension. A
manual/specification for the language is available from Apple Computer.
Send email to ····················@cambridge.apple.com or write to
Apple Computer, 1 Main Street, Cambridge, MA 02142.  Include your
complete address and also a phone number (the phone number is
especially important for anyone outside the US). Comments on Dylan can
be sent to the internet mail address ··············@cambridge.apple.com.

The mailing list ··········@cambridge.apple.com is for any and all
discussions of Dylan, including language design issues, implementation
issues, marketing issues, syntax issues, etc. The mailing list
··············@cambridge.apple.com is for major announcements about
Dylan, such as the availability of new implementations, new versions
of the manual, etc.  This mailing list should be *much* lower volume
than info-dylan.  Everything sent to this list is also sent to
info-dylan.  The mailing list ··············@cambridge.apple.com is
for people who are working on Dylan implementations. (To be added to
dylan-builders, send a note describing your implementation plans to
dylan-builders-request.) The newsgroup comp.lang.dylan is
gatewayed to the info-dylan mailing list. 

Send mail to the -request version of the list to be added to it.
You can also send an email message to ·········@cambridge.apple.com
with "subscribe info-dylan" or "unsubscribe info-dylan" in the body,
and likewise for the other lists, mutatis mutandis.

Apple hasn't announced plans to release Dylan as a product.  

The directory cambridge.apple.com:pub/dylan contains some documents
pertaining to Dylan, including a FAQ list.

========

Thomas is a compiler for a language that is compatible with the
language described in the book "Dylan(TM) an object-oriented dynamic
language" by Apple Computer Eastern Research and Technology, April
1992. Thomas was written at Digital Equipment Corporation's Cambridge
Research Laboratory. Thomas is NOT Dylan(TM) and was built with no
direct input, aid, assistance or discussion with Apple.

Thomas is available to the public by anonymous ftp at
       crl.dec.com:pub/DEC/Thomas
       gatekeeper.pa.dec.com:pub/DEC/Thomas
       altdorf.ai.mit.edu:archive/Thomas

The Thomas system is written in Scheme and runs under MIT's CScheme,
DEC's Scheme->C, and Marc Feeley's Gambit.  It can run on a wide range
of machines including the Macintosh, PC compatibles, Vax, MIPS, Alpha,
and 680x0.  Thomas generates IEEE compatible Scheme code.

A ready-made version of Thomas 1.1 interpreter built upon MacGambit
2.0 as a double-clickable Macintosh application is available by
anonymous ftp from cambridge.apple.com:/pub/dylan/gambit/ as
the file thomas-1.1-interp.hqx.

For discussion of Thomas, send a note to
   ···················@crl.dec.com 
to be added to the mailing list. 

DEC CRL's goals in building Thomas were to learn about Dylan by
building an implementation, and to build a system they could use to
write small Dylan programs. As such, Thomas has no optimizations of
any kind and does not perform well. 

The original development team consisted of:
          Matt Birkholz (········@crl.dec.com)
          Jim Miller (·······@crl.dec.com)
          Ron Weiss (······@crl.dec.com)
In addition, Joel Bartlett (········@wrl.dec.com), Marc Feeley
(······@iro.umontreal.ca), Guillermo Rozas (····@zurich.ai.mit.edu)
and Ralph Swick (·····@crl.dec.com) contributed time and energy to the
initial release.

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Subject: [4-7] What is Pearl Common Lisp?

When Apple Computer acquired Coral Software in January 1989, they
re-released Coral's Allegro Common Lisp and its optional modules as
Macintosh Allegro Common Lisp (now just Macintosh Common Lisp).
Coral's other product, Pearl Lisp, was discontinued at that time.
Pearl Lisp provides a subset of the functionality of MACL 1.3 and is
not even fully CLtL1-compatible (e.g., the implementation of defstruct is
different).

Despite rumors to the contrary, Pearl Lisp is not and never was public
domain. Nevertheless, Pearl Lisp and its documentation were placed in
the "Moof:Goodies:Pearl Lisp" folder on the first pressing of "Phil
and Dave's Excellent CD", the precursor to the current Apple
Developer's CD-ROM series.  Apple removed Pearl from later versions of
the developer CD-ROM distribution because of complaints from other
Lisp vendors. If you own a copy of Pearl Lisp or a copy of this
CD-ROM, you can make it runnable under System 7 with some slight
modifications using ResEdit.  To repeat, Pearl Lisp is NOT public
domain, so you must own a copy to use it.

To make it runnable, one needs to use ResEdit to make changes to the
BNDL and FREF resources so that it will connect to its icons properly.
This will make it respond to double-clicks in the normal manner and
make it be properly linked to its files. Detailed instructions for
modifying Pearl Lisp using ResEdit may be obtained from the Lisp
Utilities Repository by anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.cmu.edu in the
directory 
        /afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/mkant/Public/Lisp/implementations/
as the file pearl-instructions.text.

After you've made the changes, it will run under System 7 on 68000s
and 68030s if you turn off 32-bit addressing. It seems to bomb on a
Quadra.

If you need a more powerful Lisp or one that is compatible with the
standard for Common Lisp, consider purchasing Macintosh Common Lisp.

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Subject: [4-9] What Lisp-related discussion groups and mailing lists exist?
     
Before posting to any discussion group, please read the rest
of this FAQ, to make sure your question isn't already answered. 

Scheme-related mailing lists and newsgroups are listed in the Scheme
FAQ, and AI-related mailing lists and newsgroups are listed in the AI FAQ.
     
First of all, there are several Lisp-related newsgroups:
   comp.lang.lisp          General Lisp-related discussions.
                           See below for archive information.
   comp.lang.clos          Discussion related to CLOS, PCL, and
                           object-oriented programming in Lisp.
                           Gatewayed to ···········@cis.ohio-state.edu.
                           (or equivalently, ··············@cis.ohio-state.edu)
                           See below for info on the newsgroup's archives.
   comp.lang.lisp.mcl      Discussions related to Macintosh
                           Common Lisp. This newsgroup is gatewayed
                           to the ········@cambridge.apple.com
                           mailing list and archived on cambridge.apple.com.
   comp.lang.lisp.franz    Discussion of Franz Lisp, a dialect of Lisp.
                           (Note: *not* Franz Inc's Allegro.)
   comp.lang.lisp.x        Discussion of XLISP, a dialect of Lisp, and XScheme.
   comp.sys.xerox          Discussions related to using Medley (name exists
                           for historical reasons, and is likely to change
                           soon). Gatewayed to the info-1100 mailing list.
   comp.sys.ti.explorer	   TI Explorers Lisp machines.
   comp.windows.garnet     Garnet, a Lisp-based GUI.
   comp.ai and subgroups   General AI-related dicusssion.


The newsgroup comp.lang.lisp is archived on ftp.gmd.de by month, from
1989 onward in /usenet/comp.lang.lisp. Individual files are in rnews
format. (They contain articles prefixed by a header line "#! rnews
<nchars> archive" where <nchars> is the number of characters in the
article following the header. That format is convenient for various
news processing programs (e.g.  relaynews) and is rather easy to
process from a lisp program too.)  A copy of the GMD archives for
comp.lang.lisp is available on cambridge.apple.com:pub/comp.lang.lisp.


We list several mailing lists below. In general, to be added to
a mailing list, send mail to the "-request" version of the address.
This avoids flooding the mailing list with annoying and trivial
administrative requests. [To subscribe to info-mcl, info-dylan, or
other mailing lists based at cambridge.apple.com, send a message to
·········@cambridge.apple.com with "subscribe <list_name>" in the
message body. Likewise use "unsubscribe <list_name>" to cancel your
subscription and "help" to get help.]

General Lisp Mailing Lists:

   ···········@ai.sri.com          Technical discussion of Common Lisp.
   ··············@cs.cmu.edu       Low volume moderated mailing list
				   associated with the Lisp Utilities 
				   Repository at CMU. (Also known as
                                   ············@cs.cmu.edu)
   ········@think.com              A mailing list concerning the contents
                                   of this FAQ posting.

Particular Flavors of Lisp:

   ········@cambridge.apple.com    Macintosh Common Lisp. Gatewayed
                                   to the comp.lang.lisp.mcl newsgroup.
   ···············@cambridge.apple.com  Automatically generated digest format
			           version of the info-mcl mailing list.

   ··········@cs.cmu.edu           CMU Common Lisp bug reports

   ····@ai.sri.com                 Symbolics Lisp Users Group
				   Archived on warbucks.ai.sri.com.

   ··········@ucbvax.berkeley.edu  Franz Allegro Common Lisp

   ···@cli.com                     Kyoto Common Lisp 
                                   Archived in ftp.cli.com:pub/kcl/kcl-mail-archive
   ···@rascal.ics.utexas.edu       Forwards to ···@cli.com.

   ·········@harlqn.co.uk          LispWorks

   ··········@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de   CLISP
	To subscribe, send mail to ········@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de
	with "subscribe clisp-list <your full name>" in the message body.
        Use "help" to get a help message back and "unsubscribe clisp-list"
        to remove yourself from the list.

   ················@sumex-aim.stanford.edu  TI Explorer Lisp Machine
   ···············@sumex-aim.stanford.edu  TI Explorer Lisp Machine

   ·········@cis.ohio-state.edu    Xerox/Envos Lisp machine environment,
                                   InterLisp-D, and Medley. Gatewayed to
                                   the newsgroup comp.sys.xerox.

   ·············@berkeley.edu      The Franz Lisp Language.
   ···············@berkeley.edu    Maintainers of Franz Lisp.

Lisp Windowing Systems:

   ··········@ai.sri.com           Common Lisp Window System Discussions.
   ·······@expo.lcs.mit.edu        CLX (Common Lisp X Windows)
   ····@bbn.com                    Common Lisp Interface Manager
   ···········@dsg.csc.ti.com      Common Lisp User-Interface Environment
   ···············@cs.cmu.edu      Express Windows
   ············@cs.cmu.edu         Garnet (send mail to ······@cs.cmu.edu
                                   or ··············@cs.cmu.edu to be added)
   ··········@gmdzi.gmd.de         GINA and CLM
   ·········@harlequin.co.uk       LispWorks 
   ·······@hplnpm.hpl.hp.com       WINTERP (OSF/Motif Widget INTERPreter)
   ·····@csrl.aoyama.ac.jp         YYonX

Lisp Object-Oriented Programming:
   
   ···········@cis.ohio-state.edu  (same as ··············@cis.ohio-state.edu)
      Discussion related to CLOS, PCL, and object-oriented programming
      in Lisp.  The name is in honor of the first freely-available
      implementation of CLOS, Xerox PARC's Portable Common Loops, and
      was originally the mailing list for discussing that
      implementation.  Now gatewayed to the comp.lang.clos newsgroup.
      The mailing list is archived on nervous.cis.ohio-state.edu in
      the directory pub/lispusers/commonloops.  
      The CLOS code repository is in pub/lispusers/clos.

Miscellaneous:

   ······················@umnstat.stat.umn.edu     
           Use of Lisp and Lisp-based systems in statistics. 
   ························@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu
           Franz Inc's GNU-Emacs/Lisp interface.
   ·········@cis.ohio-state.edu
	Job offers requiring a knowledge of Lisp. See [1-6].

Electronic Journals:

  Electronic Journal of Functional and Logic Programming (EJFLP)

     EJFLP is a refereed journal that will be distributed for free via e-mail.
     The aim of EJFLP is to create a new medium for research investigating the
     integration of the functional, logic and constraint programming paradigms.

     For instructions on submitting a paper, send an empty mail message with 
	Subject: Help
     to: ···········@ls5.informatik.uni-dortmund.de. 
     You will receive an acknowledgment of your submission within a few hours.

     To subscribe to the journal, send an empty mail message to the same
     address. You will receive an acknowledgment of your subscription within
     a few days. 

     If there are any problems with the mail-server, send mail to
     ········@ls5.informatik.uni-dortmund.de. 

     The editorial board is: Rita Loogen (RWTH Aachen), Herbert Kuchen (RWTH
     Aachen), Michael Hanus (MPI-Saarbruecken), Manuel MT Chakravarty (TU
     Berlin), Martin Koehler (Imperial College London), Yike Guo (Imperial
     College London), Mario Rodriguez-Artalejo (Univ. Madrid), Andy Krall
     (TU Wien), Andy Mueck (LMU Muenchen), Tetsuo Ida (Univ. Tsukuba,
     Japan), Hendrik C.R. Lock (IBM Heidelberg), Andreas Hallmann (Univ.
     Dortmund), Peter Padawitz (Univ. Dortmund), Christoph Brzoska (Univ.
     Karlsruhe).

     
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Subject: [4-10] ANSI Common Lisp -- 
                Where can I get a copy of the draft standard?

The draft proposed American National Standard for Common Lisp is under
public review until November 23, 1992. 

Hard copies of the draft may be purchased from Global Engineering
Documents, Inc., 2805 McGaw Avenue, Irvine, CA  92714, 1-800-854-7179,
714-261-1455 for a single copy price of $80 ($104 international).
Copies of the TeX sources and Unix-compressed DVI files may be
obtained by anonymous FTP from parcftp.xerox.com in the directory
/pub/cl/document/*. The file Reviewer-Notes.text should be read before
ftp'ing the other files.

There is no mechanism for submitting Public Review comments by e-mail.
Comments on the draft must be submitted in hard copy format BOTH to X3
Secretariat, Attn: Lynn Barra, 1250 Eye Street NW, Suite 200,
Washington, DC 20005-3922 AND to American National Standards Institute,
Attn: BSR Center, 11 West 42nd St. 13th Floor, New York, NY 10036.

The current ISO Lisp draft standard is available by anonymous FTP from 
ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de:/pub/lisp/islisp/islisp-84.dvi
[129.13.115.2].
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