In article <············@early-bird.think.com> ······@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
>In article <····················@zaphod.lanl.gov> ······@zaphod.lanl.gov (Skip Egdorf) writes:
>>Symbolics CLOE runtime is a full Common Lisp / CLOS / CLIM for DOS.
>
>According to the FAQ, it costs from $625 to $4K; I suspect the $625 version
>is a runtime-only version that doesn't include a compiler, debugger, many
>macros, etc. Symbolics primarily developed this as a deployment
>environment for applications developed on Lispm Machines. I suspect it
>wouldn't really count as a "cheap Lisp" if you want to use it for
>development work.
>
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>Barry Margolin
>System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.
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I believe the educational price is about $500 and $2500 for an
educational site license. That includes an industrial strength common
lisp (w/ CLOS), CLIM (!), compiler, debugger, ... I don't know that I
would recommend that one do development in it as it was designed as a
delivery lisp. It doesn't have an editor.
Because it is built on Windows 3.0 and designed as a delivery vehicle
errors can be rather unforgiving and causes crashes of the machine. I
believe the current version was designed before Windows memory
management was done as it does its own memory management and actually
starts up Windows 3.0 itself in a non standard way.
I believe Symbolics is interested in improving it as it could help
them sell more workstations (i.e. do development work on a Symbolics
workstation and then deliver on the PC).
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