From: Karl B. Schwamb
Subject: Cheap PC CommonLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <9106111148.aa24520@ics.uci.edu>
I'm looking for an inexpensive implementation of Common Lisp for the
IBM PC to use as programming support for a course in AI.  Ideal would
be something in the spirit of TI's PC Scheme: cheap enough for
students, but well done.

-Karl

From: Carl M. Kadie
Subject: Re: Cheap PC CommonLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <kadie.676668057@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu>
In <··················@ics.uci.edu> ·······@ics.uci.edu ("Karl B. Schwamb") writes:


>I'm looking for an inexpensive implementation of Common Lisp for the
>IBM PC to use as programming support for a course in AI.  Ideal would
>be something in the spirit of TI's PC Scheme: cheap enough for
>students, but well done.

>-Karl

[I wrote this on Oct 17th]

Ibuki is working on a port to Microsoft Windows. At the time I talked
to their representative, he didn't know what their pricing would be.

I just hope that they don't "do a Gold Hill" and price themselves out
of the market. Borland and Microsoft have become rich selling C, BASIC,
and Pascal compilers for $100. Anyone who offers full Common Lisp at
in the price range will sell thousands and thousands of units.

[I wrote this on Feb 1]

I got a card today from Gold Hill. It announces that
"Golden Common Lisp Developer 4.0 Running Under Microsoft Windows 3.0"
is shipping. It doesn't mention a price.

***start editorial***
Recall that while Microsoft and Borland have gotten rich selling
selling PC computer languages for between $100 and $500 (not
just C either, Pascal and Basic, too.), Golden Hill has tried
to sell PC Common Lisp for $2000 a copy. It also nearly
went out of business.
***end editorial****

I called to find the prices. Still $1995 regular/$595 university.

Oh well, bye-bye Gold Hill.
--
Carl Kadie -- ·····@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: lawrence.g.mayka
Subject: Re: Cheap PC CommonLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <LGM.91Jun11203906@cbnewsc.ATT.COM>
In article <··················@ics.uci.edu> ·······@ics.uci.edu ("Karl B. Schwamb") writes:
   I'm looking for an inexpensive implementation of Common Lisp for the
   IBM PC to use as programming support for a course in AI.  Ideal would
   be something in the spirit of TI's PC Scheme: cheap enough for
   students, but well done.

You might look into Golden Common Lisp Student Edition or Star
Sapphire Common Lisp.  Neither is a *complete* implementation of
Common Lisp, but both, I think, include at least a junior CLOS and
both are under $100.


	Lawrence G. Mayka
	AT&T Bell Laboratories
	···@iexist.att.com

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