From: lawrence.g.mayka
Subject: Re: Object Oriented Languages for the NeXT
Date: 
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In article <···@melpar.UUCP> ······@melpar.UUCP (Dave Moffet) writes:
>I am currently searching for an object oriented alternative to Objective C for 
>the NeXT.  We are going to attemp to write an application that will be portable
>to different machines such Suns, IBMs, Silcon Graphics, etc.  Does anyone know a language developed or being developed that will suit this type os situation.

I believe that Allegro Common Lisp comes standard on the NeXT
machine, presumably including both (Old) Flavors and the new
standard Common Lisp Object System (CLOS).  Other Common Lisp
implementations are no doubt available for the NeXT also - major
platforms typically offer several to choose from.  You may want to
get a software maintenance contract, though, to ensure receiving
the performance enhancements most Common Lisp vendors will deliver
in the coming months.


	Lawrence G. Mayka
	AT&T Bell Laboratories
	···@ihlpf.att.com

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From: Jeff Dalton
Subject: Re: Object Oriented Languages for the NeXT
Date: 
Message-ID: <2074@skye.ed.ac.uk>
In article <·····@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> ···@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (lawrence.g.mayka,ihp,) writes:
>I believe that Allegro Common Lisp comes standard on the NeXT
>machine, presumably including both (Old) Flavors and the new
>standard Common Lisp Object System (CLOS).

Does "Allegro" mean the Coral one or the Franz Inc. one?
I find that whenever I say "Allegro" to refer to one of
them some people assume I meant the other one.

-- Jeff
From: Eric A. Raymond
Subject: Re: Object Oriented Languages for the NeXT
Date: 
Message-ID: <4502@einstein.ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>
····@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton) writes:
>Does "Allegro" mean the Coral one or the Franz Inc. one?


Coral (now Apple) Allegro runs only under MacOS.
Franz Allegro runs on UN*X. (This includes A/UX unless you escape to
the MacOS backdoor.)

Unfortunately the languages are not exactly the same ....
-- 
Eric A. Raymond  (·······@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov)
G7 C7 G7 G#7 G7 G+13 C7 GM7 Am7 Bm7 Bd7 Am7 C7 Do13 G7 C7 G7 D+13: Elmore James
From: lawrence.g.mayka
Subject: Re: Object Oriented Languages for the NeXT
Date: 
Message-ID: <14518@cbnewsc.ATT.COM>
In article <····@skye.ed.ac.uk> ····@aiai.UUCP (Jeff Dalton) writes:
>In article <·····@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> ···@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (lawrence.g.mayka,ihp,) writes:
>>I believe that Allegro Common Lisp comes standard on the NeXT
>>machine, presumably including both (Old) Flavors and the new
>>standard Common Lisp Object System (CLOS).
>
>Does "Allegro" mean the Coral one or the Franz Inc. one?

Coral Software only sold Common Lisp for the Macintosh, I
believe.  In fact, Coral was absorbed by Apple Computer last
year.  Its product may even have been renamed Apple Common Lisp, I
think.


	Lawrence G. Mayka
	AT&T Bell Laboratories
	···@ihlpf.att.com

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